Helophilina. Esto
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Revisar identificaciones de Lejops 121347
Taxonomic Split 65844
(Guardado el 20/10/2020)
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Yeah, I figured i should draft the split but then would wait for BugGuide before committing it.
Are you an editor on BugGuide?
No, tbh, I don’t use it very much other then when I’m doing a project on insects so I don’t feel like I’d be very qualified to be an editor.
Someone has moved several Lejops species into the genus Anasimyia without changing their names. E.g. there are two copies of "Lejops bilinearis" under Anasimyia. This is confusing and weird, especially for people who aren't aware of this upcoming split. It would probably be better to keep Anasimyia as a subgenus of Lejops until this split goes through.
That said I see no reason this split shouldnt go thru already. BugGuide is lagging on all the changes associated with the new Syrphid guide until editors mostly on iNat (recently myself for a few of them) update them, and it was recently decided to move Ochlerotatus back to Aedes on iNat despite the continuing lag on BugGuide. I'm not sure it makes sense to keep waiting for BugGuide on this type of thing as in Diptera they don't seem as actively curated anymore.
Yeah, I think it’s time to go through and commit this split. Originally, I wanted to wait for BugGuide but that doesn’t seem to be happening any time soon.
@billdean is this genus split accepted globally, or still controversial?
Anasimyia has been accepted as having full genus status in Europe for some time and following Skevington`s Guide also in North America. Any taxonomic changes in the Guide, I am assured are valid and BugGuide is lagging behind. I am in favour of giving the subgenera of Lejops full genus status.
@billdean I would favor making these changes on iNaturalist then, but do you know where I can find a list instructing which specific epithets go with which updated genera?
For North America I can get that information at http://www.canacoll.org/Diptera/Staff/Skevington/Syrphidae/Syrphidae_Nearctic_Checklist.htm
but is there a corresponding reference for the Old World and Neotropics?
Maybe a publication?
@johnklymko do you think you could help? It's been too long.
I don't know how to help. I agree the split is overdue for the Nearctic fauna. @billdean raises a good point about other regions.
OK, I'm using SPECIES ACCOUNTS OF EUROPEANSYRPHIDAE (DIPTERA), GLASGOW 2011M.C.D.Speight for Palearctic species and Skevington et al 2018 for Nearctic species.
I don't think a taxon split is the right way to do this, I'm going to move individual species into the genera.
Then I'll commit the taxon split last.
But also the above aren't the taxa for the taxon split, some of those are subgenera?
I'm assuming Asemosyrphus is also it's own new genus.
I've ultimately had to use some opportunistic sources as well to confirm name spellings, etc. I'm going to modify or make a new taxon split when it's ready.
Done!
There will be a lot of observations to re-identify now.... most to Anasimyia, some in tropical America to Asemosyrphus, etc
@upupa-epops you first introduced me to all the central American 'Lejops" - those go in Asemosyrphus now I think.
Okay thanks!
Thanks @edanko!
I assume we're waiting for BugGuide to move ahead with this?